As a result, both the MSR-10 Hunter and MSR-10 Long Range feature a compact AR-10 design that feels and handles more like an AR-15., Savages AR-10s also feature custom-forged uppers and lowers for a look unlike anything aeld or on the range, plus a free-oating forend that locks down so tight you can bridge a scope mount from forend to receiver with no loss of accuracy. The information and opinions expressed within this site are those of its contributors, and in no way should be viewed as the opinions or recommendations of Savage Arms. Savage engineers were able to thinkoutside the box to bring gamechanging features to both the MSR Hunter and MSR Long Range.. The latest way appears to be an app called CamoSpace, designed specifically for members of the hunting community. It's priced competitively.The MSR 10 Hunter ships with an MSRP of $1,481. 0000774677 00000 n Second, Savage was very late to the game as many feel the peak sales years for MSR-type rifles had already passed them by. The gas tube is a custom length specific to each cartridge. I was using lighter ammo, 147 gr, so I coughed out the dough for 168gr match recommended by Savage. It hides in a tube, looks odd and makes funny noises when you shake it. Like the BCG, the standard answer is to pump a ton of gas through the rifle and use a heavy bolt carrier group and buffer to prevent the extractor from slipping off the fired case's rim and to keep the cam pin from beating on the bolt. The MSRP for the Long Range is $1799. . The announcement is here. Lengthening a gas system is like giving an AR Xanax; it mellows it out. Below are 2 pictures. 0000773366 00000 n The MSR 10 Long RangeMore AR fans are looking for rifles that can be used for extended-range precision shooting without being overly heavy. 0000002194 00000 n Most 6.5 Creedmoor loads use bullets weighing anywhere from 120 to 147 grains, and the 1:8-inch twist can easily handle them all. Savage tailored barrel length to caliber and purpose. An M-Lok hand guard., The upper and lower are both proprietary, Kelley added, and shorter in length, which allows us to make the gun more compact, bring the center of balance back closer to the center line of the shooter, which makes for better handling. It's hard to believe they shot a 5 round group. I will post back with results and I hope Savage gets your rifle lined out in short order! I'm using 41.7g of h3850 to drive them, and getting groups around a half inch at 100. All these controls are positioned for right-handed shooters; none are ambidextrous. hTKQ?'gU5T0lV1EMlpQVq6}s $)NCI4y!2I\3jwe72XVNk4}ndmx Cm&86yor]Vh2njOzo,m? Made of hard plastic, the Blackhawk grip has molded-in areas of texture. I just received my precision in 308. 0000013618 00000 n Savage's service department said they repaired the rifle. Savage opted to go the purpose-built route with its MSRs by installing hand-picked feature sets selected to complement each rifles primary purpose. The Picatinny-rail-topped upper receiver is paired with an 18" free-floating aluminum handguard that features a full-length top rail. It is bigger than the barrel nut. Shot a couple 5 round groups that had flyers making them about 2" with a 1-6 Burris RT6. 0000762794 00000 n But, we quickly became a believer after testing both AR-15 and AR-10 styles and considering the performance they offered for the small price they command. Those extra inches of bore give the gas behind the bullet that much more room to expand (like a bigger container) and drop in pressure. To further enhance accuracy while reducing fouling, the bore features innovative 5R riing. The other two Savage ARs, the MSR 15 Patrol and MSR 15 Recon, are both based on the smaller AR-15 platform and have a .223 Wylde chamber, which accepts .223 Rem. The MSR 10's bolt carrier group saw a lot more design effort than what's normally found in a large-frame AR. Going to try handloads or FGMM to see what it's capable of once I get a few more rounds through it. One of the first things Beckstrand did with this rifle was to pull the bolt carrier group (BCG) out of Savage's MSR 10 Long Range and throw it on a scale. The Savage MSR Competition Series Rifle is available in 5.56mm, .224 Valykrie, and a .308 Winchester MSR-10 version. We were initially skeptical about Savage Arms' decision to start making AR-type rifles. So when you say the way it cycled are you having my luck with the bolt completely running over rounds with out picking them up -or- picking up a round and then trying to load WHILE the spent case is trying to eject AND another live round has popped up and created a ammunition thruple aka a hell of a mess? The twist rate on the 6.5 Creedmoor Long Range is the standard 1:8 inches that does so well with the long and heavy bullets common for this cartridge. That way a customer could add a forward assist. Bolt Carrier Group: After 200 plus rounds the carrier cam pin slot developed a burr which caused excessive wear on the cam pin, wearing it through its finish and gouging the metal throwing up a large burr on the cam pin. The mid-length should have a slower cyclic rate, but it does not. The custom-forged receivers give the rifles a sleek appearance. Savage Arms jumped into the AR market this year with four new guns, two of which are for big-game hunters. I question its barrel length for hunting, as a 16-inch barrel sucks velocity from the .308 Win. Will be going back. Henrys newest single shot is easy to carry and sports fiber-optic sights and a turkey choke for deadly tight patterns. I've had no issues with my buffer (stock) setup, and so far, nearly all feeding issues I've experienced have been from under-gassing after changing bullet weights. The MSR 15 PatrolThanks to the MSR 15 Patrols quality construction and a top-notch set of polymer furniture from Blackhawk, the rifles features are a tangible step up from the general-purpose model category that its $849 suggested retail price might imply. Its price belies a feature set that the company is able to offer by producing many of the components in-house. The large ARs are far from new, and a lot of subtle improvements have made their way to just about everybody's rifles, so it's hard to stand out in the crowd. Free bore is a smooth round hole that guides the bullet into the leade and rifling. For more information, please see our That means there's .00025-inch clearance on either side of the bullet once the round gets shoved into the chamber (provided the manufacturer stays on top of their tooling). Savage accounted for wear on the portion of the key that slips over the gas tube where it enters the upper receiver. It's one of the most elegantly designed gas systems we've tested, and the only other ARs with something similar cost $1,000 more with a waiting list several months long. 0000762380 00000 n AmSJ. Anyone else have experience on this rifle?Edit: Readability. The buttplate has large diamond-pattern texturing with two ports that allow for the attachment of a Knoxx recoil pad. I don't know if maybe polishing the chamber could have maybe helped the accuracy by making it cycle more consistently? All of the BCGs components appeared to be well-made and properly fitted. I've been tinkering with my recoil impulse trying to reduce muzzle hop, mainly by changing compensators (APA G3 Little Bastard) which has me really close to the follow through I want, but I'm curious what effects you note from switching springs and buffers. I have upgraded this combination to an H3 buffer and a Tubbs AR-10 flatwire buffer spring. Description Savage MSR 15 Recon .223 REM/5.56 NATO Demand more from an out-of-the-box rifle. 0000772254 00000 n 0000759047 00000 n capacity Sights:none; Picatinny rail integral to receiver for mounting optics Safety:2-position rotating lever Stock:6-position Blackhawk Axiom; adj. For the MSR 10s, the company customized each rifles system to best fit t, The Patrol was just as handy and comfortable to work with as, one would expect a good M4-type semi-automatic to be off and on the bench. It has a sister rifle, of sorts.If the Hunter doesn't float your boat on its own, you can check out the MSR 10 Long Range, which is the Hunter's upgraded sister, of sorts. (This) rie has all the cool features that little boutique gun makers can do, but in one rie from a large manufacturer: Savage Arms.. 0000753216 00000 n I then screwed on my TBAC Ultra 7 and it needed to be at 10 clicks to lock bolt back on empty mag. grips, buttstock and ip up sights are also standard.. Very pleased!!! Yeah, you have to adjust your technique a bit with gas guns in general, most of them need a firmer grip and well loaded tripod legs. A small gap in the top of the handguard provides easy access to the adjustable gas block attached to the extended-length gas system. I wasn't impressed with the rifle and I'm not impressed with the customer service from Savage so far. How did you spend $6k on a JP? 0000455148 00000 n I'm getting slightly better groups, but still not nearly MOA, averaging around 2". Partnering with Proof Research, Savage built the MSR 10 Competition HD around a custom hybrid carbon-fiber wrapped barrel. I am sure it will return 100% from Savage, just unfortunate I have to deal with this. Pressure in the chamber pushes the fired case into the chamber walls. The Hunters upper and lower receivers are not compatible with other firearms based on the AR-10 platform. The grip is narrow at the top with deep bilateral thumb grooves and a hand-filling palm swell. High-end manufacturers have done thousands upon thousands of rounds in testing similar rifles and came to the conclusion that 19 ounces is way more weight than necessary. While developing its modern, precision AR-10s, Savage also addressed other longstanding shortcomings of MSRs designed for larger cartridges. I did not experience a single stoppage, jam or failure; the Hunter ran perfectly. Cookie Notice OTM load. The Long Range in 6.5 Creedmoor benefits from the SAAMI chamber specifications of the cartridge. The six-position buttstock is also from Blackhawk and has a thick recoil pad. The charging handle is standard mil-spec style with a slightly extended catch lever. Interested to see how this turns out..looking into buying the msr10 hunter model to carry in the field and Im hoping savage will take care of any warranty concerns. 0000753129 00000 n The Patrol was just as handy and comfortable to work with as one would expect a good M4-type semi-automatic to be off and on the bench. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. We'll have further coverage of the Savage MSR line both in print and onlinein the near future. 0000759135 00000 n Despite their budget-friendly price tags, I have yet to test one that would qualify as cheap. In fact, what I have seen time and again is a level of fit, finish and attention to detail that exceeded my expectations based on the products price. Mind you I added all the bits I bought for my rifle as well. 0000771940 00000 n Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Krieger 24" 10 Flute JP Gas Block AR308 Barrel. This is intended to reduce the buildup of fouling, which affects accuracy, and to make the barrel easier to clean. 0000744765 00000 n Got to go play at the range today and I am impressed with the Savage! | The stocks adjustment lever is placed at the front to keep it out of the way. I had received a call a month back where I was informed the rifle was gtg and was about to be shipped to me. In 1984, Winchester began to produce rifles chambered for cartridge, legitimizing Waters dream, and establishing it as a commercial cartridge. Savage tailored barrel length to caliber and purpose. . It will not cycle or lock the bolt back with 168 grn fed gm, magtech sniper 168 nor MEN 150 grn. The direct-gas-impingement system commonly employed by many modern AR platforms has proven to be exceptionally reliable when the gas tubes length is properly matched to the length of a particular rifles barrel. Oh it will definitely kill pigs and be reliable too. The LOP can be extended an additional 1.4" with the cheek piece providing up to 0.75" of additional height. We'll have further coverage of the Savage MSR lineboth in print and onlinein the near future. The company is convinced that both new MSR-10s will quickly nd a place in the hands and hearts of discerning shooters, and with early results trending so favorably, it would be hard to argue otherwise. Savage puts the same barrel on both the Recon and Patrol. After searching for real reviews on this rifle (not SHOT show range day impressions from dirt blasting or plinking steel) and finding nothing, I finally gave in and just ordered one. Those screws have to be staked well or they will loosen and allow gas to leak over time, which causes malfunctions. 0000015503 00000 n Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. Barrel technology. Watch American Rifleman staff with the BFT47, a semi-automatic rifle chambered for the ubiquitous Russian cartridge, 7.62x39 mm, and its a rifle that is specd out by Americans, built by Americans, for the American market by Century Arms. The MSR 10 Hunter uses a Blackhawk trigger with nickel-boron treatment. It's built to. Its shaped to provide a bilateral thumb rest and hand stop for those shooters who prefer the straight-arm support-hand grip favored by 3-gun competitors. It is a simple screw held in place with a ball and detent that can be adjusted in quarter-turn increments. In fact., Savage is using the same exact parts as every other AR manufacturer. In the hands, it feels much more akin to an AR-15 than a modern AR-10. The 7.62mm ARs shoot a wide variety of bullet weights using a lot of different powders, and each combination creates a different pressure at the gas port based on the powder type, burn rate and bullet weight. 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There is very little room for the long projectile to yaw prior to engaging the rifling, so it enters straight and exits the muzzle straight. Sections of straight-line raised ridges are separated by fine, non-abrasive texturing. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. The Savage MSR family of rifles is available in two receiver sizes. The designs are both useful and easy on the eyes. 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Scope, Altlas bi-pod, mags, etc. Federal has specifically designed this load as an affordable, yet accurate, option for competition and practice. AR Blaze trigger, and a tough Melonite QPQ finish. It is a "small frame" rifle and its bolt carrier is significantly shorter than that of a AR-10/SR25/LR308 pattern rifle. pull. These guns were not hastily thrown together to meet a particular trend, but carefully thought-out and professionally assembled to provide. I wanted one because I really like the small frame, +2 gas system, compatibility with large frame DPMS spec barrels & bolts, and the 18" handguard with Arca rail. The rounded top provides a positive cheek weld. 0000763332 00000 n The best 10 round groups I could squeeze out of it was 2"+. Get a closer look at the Smith & Wesson Model 350, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series. . Just like the MSR 15s that Savage put into production in 2017, the MSR 10 has a barrel and gas block produced in-house.
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